Reversing Climate Change
Nori
A podcast about the different people, technologies, and organizations that are coming together to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and reverse climate change. Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support
Categories: Technology
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Carbon removal is often conceived of as only separating greenhouse gases from ambient air. But what if it also creates other valuable products in the process? Should they still be selling carbon credits? Does this competition make it harder for carbon removal companies that can't produce additional value streams? What are the trade-offs here, and is financial additionality the right place to intervene if intervention is even necessary?
In this episode of the Reversing Climate Change podcast, Nori Cofounder Ross Kenyon interviews Eric Matzner, an alumnus of Carbon Removal Newsroom and Cofounder of Project Vesta who has a new venture leaving stealth mode called Metalplant. This is Metalplant's podcast debut!
This innovative project combines hyperaccumulator plants and enhanced rock weathering to extract nickel from soil and crushed rock while removing carbon from the air. Eric discusses the economics of co-producing nickel and carbon offsets, addressing the challenges of carbon removal scale-up, and his views on the importance of vertical integration in ensuring quality and cost control. The episode delves into Metalplant's initial operations in Albania, leveraging the country's rich olivine resources on non-arable land, and generating local employment.
Much of the conversation focuses on a possibly looming intellectual crisis in carbon removal: what does the industry do when it realizes that many of its methodologies are co-producing value besides carbon? Will it try to find a way to square that with conventional applications of financial additionality, or will they abandon or amend additionality to make sure co-producers aren't held down while the world desperately needs them to scale their operations?
So much to talk about, and there will almost certainly be more on this topic in the future!
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--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/supportPrevious episodes
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357 - 321: Metalplant's Debut! Enhanced Rock Weathering, Coproducing Nickel, & Additionality—w/ Eric Matzner, Cofounder of Metalplant Thu, 11 Apr 2024
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356 - 320: Why We Die: Living Longer's Impact on Climate Change—w/ Dr. Venki Ramakrishnan, Nobel Laureate and author of Why We Die Thu, 04 Apr 2024
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355 - 319: How Nori Rebranded: A Case Study—w/ Heidi Sloane, Nori's Senior Marketing Manager Tue, 02 Apr 2024
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354 - 318: Is the Climate Cooking Craze Missing the Point?—w/ Tamar Adler, author of An Everlasting Meal Thu, 21 Mar 2024
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353 - 317: Will Space Settlements Save Us from Climate Calamity?—w/ Zach & Kelly Weinersmith, authors of A City on Mars Thu, 07 Mar 2024
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352 - 316: How Animals (and Nutrient Pumps!) Make Our World—w/ Dr. Joe Roman, author of Eat, Poop, Die Thu, 22 Feb 2024
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351 - 315: What Is Regenerative Agriculture? An Introduction!—w/ Jada Dormaier, Supply Account Manager at Nori Tue, 20 Feb 2024
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350 - 314: Will Catholic Integralism Be a Force in World Politics?—w/ Dr. Kevin Vallier, Author & Associate Professor at BGSU Thu, 15 Feb 2024
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349 - 313: Can Carbon Removal Be Insured?—w/ Racheal Notto & James Kench, Kita Thu, 08 Feb 2024
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348 - 312: Nori's collab with the Texas Climate-Smart Initiative—w/ Dr. Julie Howe, Professor of Soil Science & Project Director of TCSI Thu, 01 Feb 2024
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347 - 311: Carbon Removal 101: What is CDR?!—w/ Radhika Moolgavkar, Head of Supply and Methodology at Nori Tue, 30 Jan 2024
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346 - 310: The Role of Product Leadership at a Climatetech Company—w/ Patrick Tsao, Head of Product at Nori Thu, 18 Jan 2024
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345 - 309: Will Harris's Legendary Regenerative Agriculture Journey, AKA A Bold Return to Giving a Damn Thu, 11 Jan 2024
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344 - 308: Surviving and Thriving in a Disaster Situation—w/ Bill Fulton & Jeanne Chilton Devon, authors of Survive and Thrive: How to Prepare for Any Disaster Without Ammo, Camo, or Eating Your Neighbor Thu, 04 Jan 2024
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343 - 307: The Rise of Corporate Insetting?!—w/ Lia Nicholson, Head of Sustainability at Terrascope Thu, 21 Dec 2023
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342 - 306: Carbon removal boots on the COP28 ground—w/ Tito Jankowski, CEO of AirMiners Thu, 14 Dec 2023
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341 - S3E64: Disease and Health Risks of a Changing Climate—w/ Zoya Teirstein, staff writer at Grist Thu, 07 Dec 2023
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340 - S3E63: Radical Honesty & Alan Watts w/ Ed Begley, Jr.—a Hollywood climate veteran and author of To the Temple of Tranquility...And Step On It! Thu, 30 Nov 2023
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339 - S3E62: The Subtle Beauty of a Tiny Life—w/ Helen Rebanks, shepherd and author of The Farmer's Wife: My Life in Days Thu, 23 Nov 2023
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338 - S3E61: Climate Prepping: How Should Your Family Adapt?—w/ David Pogue, author of How to Prepare for Climate Change Thu, 16 Nov 2023
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337 - S3E60: Are carbon credits more like bonds or precious metals?—w/ Tommy Ricketts of BeZero Carbon Thu, 09 Nov 2023
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336 - S3E59: Should you be a hunter? A vegan? Somehow both?—w/ Bruce McGlenn of Human Nature Hunting Fri, 03 Nov 2023
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335 - S3E58: Can gifting carbon removal help spread awareness of our nascent industry?—w/ Thanks a Ton's cofounders Thu, 26 Oct 2023
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334 - S3E57: Is direct air capture an energetic dead end?—w/ Paul Hawken, author of Regeneration: Ending the Climate Crisis in One Generation Thu, 12 Oct 2023
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333 - S3E56: Could there be a just solar geoengineering?—w/ Shuchi Talati, Founder of The Alliance for Just Deliberation on Solar Geoengineering Thu, 05 Oct 2023
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332 - S3E55: Could Biomass Materials Science Create Regenerative Supply Chains?—w/ Wendy Owens, CEO & Founder of Hexas Biomass Thu, 28 Sep 2023
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331 - S3E54: Building Commodity Scale Infrastructure for Carbon Removal—w/ Matt Trudeau, Nori's new CEO Thu, 21 Sep 2023
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330 - S3E53: Are you coming to the Global Direct Air Capture Conference?!—w/ Jason Hochman of the Direct Air Capture Coalition Thu, 14 Sep 2023
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329 - S3E52: Climate baking returns! Can we bake our way out of oblivion?—w/ Caroline Saunders, pastry chef and writer of Pale Blue Tart Thu, 24 Aug 2023
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328 - S3E51: The Heat Will Kill You First—w/ Jeff Goodell, author and contributing editor of Rolling Stone Thu, 17 Aug 2023
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327 - S3E50: The Culture of Carbon Removal—w/ Jason Grillo, Director of Partnerships and Operations at AirMiners  Thu, 10 Aug 2023
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326 - S3E49: How Could an Automated Electric Tractor Change Farming?—w/ Carlo Mondavi of Monarch Thu, 03 Aug 2023
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325 - S3E48: Buy early & risky CDR credits; sell later for profit? The AirMiners Kiloton Fund—w/ Tito Jankowski Thu, 27 Jul 2023
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324 - S3E47: The state of blue carbon in carbon markets—w/ Kevin Whilden of SeaTrees Thu, 29 Jun 2023
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323 - S3E46: Methane removal?! AKA Methane is having a moment—w/ Erika Reinhardt of Spark Climate Solutions Thu, 22 Jun 2023
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322 - S3E45: Mixing Fast and Slow Carbon: The Nori Blended Tonne—w/ Radhika Moolgavkar, Nori's Head of Supply & Methodology Thu, 15 Jun 2023
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321 - S3E44: Is it time for Second-Generation Direct Air Capture? —w/ Sampo Tukiainen of C-Fix Thu, 08 Jun 2023
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320 - S3E43: How to get your garden ready for climate change—w/ Sally Morgan, coauthor of The Climate Change Garden Thu, 01 Jun 2023
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319 - S3E42: Carbon removal funding and dealflow in the XPRIZE/Circular Carbon Network report—w/ Nikki Batchelor & Ongeleigh Underwood Thu, 25 May 2023
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318 - S3E41: Whole animal butchery, nose-to-tail eating, & climate—w/ Kevin Smith, butcher & owner of Beast and Cleaver Thu, 18 May 2023
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317 - S3E40: PlantVillage is working to scale biochar in Africa–w/ Dr. David Hughes Tue, 02 May 2023
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316 - (A Spotify video podcast!) What goes into making a carbon removal meme?—w/ Nori's Memelab Tue, 25 Apr 2023
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315 - S3E39: Wyoming's Project Bison: Carbon Removal in Fossil Fuel Country—w/ Nicholas Kusnetz, Inside Climate News Tue, 18 Apr 2023
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314 - Wide Sargassum Sea (and carbon removal robots!)—w/ Seaweed Generation's Mike Allen & Patricia Estridge Tue, 11 Apr 2023
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313 - S3E38: Where are the campy cli-fi series? Why do we only have literary climate fiction?!—w/ Daniel Backer, author Tue, 28 Mar 2023
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312 - S3E37: Sandor Katz on Fermented Foods & Climate Change—w/ Sandor Ellix Katz, author of The Art of Fermentation Tue, 21 Mar 2023
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311 - Financial Innovation within Carbon Removal (& EHR!)—w/ Peter Olivier, Head of New Markets at UNDO Tue, 07 Mar 2023
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310 - Carbon Capture & Carbon Removal: Friends or Foes?—w/ Gagan Porrwal of GE Gas Power's Carbon Solutions Tue, 07 Feb 2023
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309 - S3E36: Why We Need More Sh*tty First Drafts in Carbon Removal—w/ Adina Mangubat & Tito Jankowski of AirMiners Tue, 31 Jan 2023
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308 - How to Get Carbon Removal Startups the Support They Need!—w/ Neesha Mirchandani of Impact Stars Tue, 24 Jan 2023